Ep. 22: The Mystical Primer w/ the Skeptical Mystic Concludes

The third and final part of our mystical primer with the Skeptical Mystic concludes today. Steven Jones and I talk about Benedict of Nursia & lectio divina, Catherine of Siena & erotic spirituality, and Hildegard of Bingen & the greening of all things.

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Intro/Outro available on the Free Music Archive:…r_Broncos_1128

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Interlude 2 available on iTunes:…623?i=1120163071


Ep. 21: The Mystical Primer Continues

We return to what will now be a three part series to extend just beyond Advent with the Skeptical Mystic, Steven Jones!

In this episode, we discuss St. John of the Cross, Theresa of Avila, Thomas Merton, the crazy performance artist Ezekiel, and I even sneak in a bit about my favorite digital prophet, Marshall McLuhan.


Ep. 19: A Mystical Tradition Primer with Steven Jones, aka The Skeptical Mystic

In Part 1 of a 3-part series, Steven Jones and I discuss the variety of mystical traditions!

You’ll find links to many of the texts Steven and I talk about in the original show notes posted on Medium. (Following these links credits Exvangelical through our affiliate partnership with Amazon.)


Intro: “The Fleecing” by Pedro the Lion

Interlude 1: “Whatever Works” by Tin Lion

Interlude 2: “I Just Don’t Know What to Do” by The White Stripes

Outro: “Heard Somebody Say” by Devendra Banhart.

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Ep. 18: Science Mike

This week’s episode features a conversation with Mike McHargue, aka Science Mike!

Mike is an author, speaker, and podcaster. You may know him from his podcasts, The Liturgists and Ask Science Mike. He also has a new book out, which we discuss at length.

We talk about his book, Finding God in the Waves: How I Lost My Faith and Found It Again Through Scienceas well as his efforts to create community through the Liturgists Gatherings.

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Buy his book — at this link or the one above — it’s a wonderful read, and would make an equally wonderful gift this holiday season.

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Ep. 11: Matter Matters & Other Matters with Nathan Cleveland

This week’s episode features a conversation with Nathan Cleveland. We discuss his evangelical childhood, our time at the Mystery College, the mystery and power of the Eucharist, the limitations of certainty, and perhaps most importantly, he and I relish in the proper pronunciation of the word ‘evangelical.’ This talk features adult language, so don’t play it around your kiddos or anyone else’s kiddos.

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Intro Music: “The Fleecing” by Pedro the Lion
Interlude: “Timebomb” by The Whitest Boy Alive
Outro Music: “Be Here Now” by Ray LaMontagne